Comment on Makarieva et al. 'A critique of some modern applications of the Carnot heat engine concept: The dissipative heat engine cannot exist'

Marja Bister; Nilton Renno; Olivier Pauluis; Kerry Emanuel

doi:10.1098/rspa.2010.0087

Comment on Makarieva et al. 'A critique of some modern applications of the Carnot heat engine concept: The dissipative heat engine cannot exist'

Marja Bister, Nilton Renno, Olivier Pauluis, Kerry Emanuel

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Makarieva et al. (2010) assert that a dissipative heat engine is impossible and criticize earlier published work that they claim violates the laws of thermodynamics. Here we show that the earlier work does not violate fundamental physical laws and suggest that Makarieva et al. (2010) were misinterpreting expressions for wind speed as ones for work done on external objects. Moreover, we dispute their assertion that dissipative heating is necessarily compensated by a reduction of external heating.

Original language	English (US)
Pages (from-to)	1-6
Number of pages	6
Journal	Proceedings of the Royal Society A: Mathematical, Physical and Engineering Sciences
Volume	467
Issue number	2125
DOIs	https://doi.org/10.1098/rspa.2010.0087
State	Published - Jan 8 2011

Keywords

Carnot
Heat engine
Hurricane
Tropical cyclone

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Mathematics(all)
Engineering(all)
Physics and Astronomy(all)

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Comment on Makarieva et al. 'A critique of some modern applications of the Carnot heat engine concept : The dissipative heat engine cannot exist'. / Bister, Marja; Renno, Nilton; Pauluis, Olivier; Emanuel, Kerry.

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